”The word “fair” and the word “loving” as defined by whom? I tell people all the time, you want fair? Fair sends everybody to hell. You want what is just? Justice sends everyone to hell. I think what you want is grace, and grace is at the discretion of the giver. Is it not? And forgiveness is at the discretion of the forgiver, is it not? And [forgiveness is] on the terms of the one who has been offended.” - John MacArthur “The Doctrine of Actual Atonement – Part 2” GTY 10/2/07 Said in response to a comment that election and limited atonement don’t sound loving or fair.